Love the software, and it does work well. I would like to upgrade to the unlimited camera option, but I can't justify the $200 you guys want for it. Even the $50 for two cameras is a bit steep IMO. Please, no disrespect to you, but in these times, I would think most businesses would offer a reduced price or at least a "sale" on said products. Do you guys plan on a "sale" anytime soon? If you have the unlimited for $100, I would be on it right away. Or at least the two camera for $25 would pull me in more. I'm sure others would agree. The costs of products these days needs to start dropping, if you want people to purchase them, IMO. Look at Walmart, they sell low, and gain tons of more customers this way. Also, Amazon, Ebay and Woot all offer serious discounts for products, etc.
Once again, I want to be straight, its not a knock on you guys, and I'm sure the time spent to develop this software was deep, but maybe a sale or a reduced offer time frame would boost your sales and help with future developments, no?
Thank you for the "free" version, it's nice to try it out on a single camera, and this is the reason I want to upgrade, but I can't afford the current costs.
Good day.
Peace
Pricing
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LeoS - Posts: 1
- Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:18 am
Re: Pricing
I'd suggest the following price curve...
1 cam = free
3 cams = $50
8 cams = $100
20 cams = $200
unlimited single machine license = $300
Site license = call
1 cam = free
3 cams = $50
8 cams = $100
20 cams = $200
unlimited single machine license = $300
Site license = call
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phdearthworm - Posts: 2
- Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:27 am
Re: Pricing
LeoS wrote:I'd suggest the following price curve...
1 cam = free
3 cams = $50
8 cams = $100
20 cams = $200
unlimited single machine license = $300
Site license = call
I'd be onboard with that pricing plan, however you'd have to grandfather the existing customers into the applicable licensing. So the 2-camera $50 license could get the 3-camera new license and the unlimited $200 would remain in the unlimited (but have saved a $100 in early adopter pricing!).
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leyton01 - Posts: 3
- Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 9:25 am
Re: Pricing
should be 4 cams = $50
usual 'sets' of cameras come in 4
that is about the equivalent of other similar products as well
usual 'sets' of cameras come in 4
that is about the equivalent of other similar products as well
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saintjohnny - Posts: 30
- Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:38 am
Re: Pricing
I think of it less as paying for "software" and more as it turning my PC into a full featured security system. I've tried every other software out there, as well as stand alone DVRs and they wasted so much of my time in configuration, only to have them not not perform correctly and consistently, and time is money.
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sivart321 - Posts: 7
- Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:11 pm
Re: Pricing
I think $50 for 4 cameras is the sweet spot.
I too would love to use vitamin d with my 4+ cameras, but cannot justify the premium price. Blue iris has similar capabilities, but is $50. I prefer vitamin d and would gladly pay the $50 (that I wouldn't give to blue iris). $200 is far too much to ask for consumer installations in the 4-6 camera range.
I too would love to use vitamin d with my 4+ cameras, but cannot justify the premium price. Blue iris has similar capabilities, but is $50. I prefer vitamin d and would gladly pay the $50 (that I wouldn't give to blue iris). $200 is far too much to ask for consumer installations in the 4-6 camera range.
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mugsy - Posts: 2
- Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:09 am
Re: Pricing
I agree. I bought the 2 camera ($49) option for Vitamin D. I'm only going to use 2 cameras in my home security setup. But if I ever buy another camera it is cheaper to buy the $50 pro option for one of Vitamin D's competitors rather than fork out a crazy extra $150 for the pro option for vitamin D.
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ishmell - Posts: 8
- Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:09 am
Re: Pricing
Guys, I don't understand this lowball pricing you're all suggesting.
I assume most people are using decent IP cameras, which range from $99 to $499 a piece. Or, if you are stringing coax everywhere to run analog cams, what does your video server board cost? My point is, so you plunk down at least $400 for 4 decent IP cameras which can dump video footage all day long into your box... so what? You paid $400 for gear that will produce 36,000 frames of video per hour, per camera... and its very likely that only %0.001 of those frames will be useful. The value of VDV is that it can get you to that %0.001 very quickly and efficiently... way faster and with far less pain than with anything I've ever used before... and you're gonna wince at paying $199 for that?
Try surfing the Internet without any search engines and you'll see how valuable efficient search really is. If anything, VDV is worth $50/camera IMO.
I assume most people are using decent IP cameras, which range from $99 to $499 a piece. Or, if you are stringing coax everywhere to run analog cams, what does your video server board cost? My point is, so you plunk down at least $400 for 4 decent IP cameras which can dump video footage all day long into your box... so what? You paid $400 for gear that will produce 36,000 frames of video per hour, per camera... and its very likely that only %0.001 of those frames will be useful. The value of VDV is that it can get you to that %0.001 very quickly and efficiently... way faster and with far less pain than with anything I've ever used before... and you're gonna wince at paying $199 for that?
Try surfing the Internet without any search engines and you'll see how valuable efficient search really is. If anything, VDV is worth $50/camera IMO.
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MrYellowDuck - Posts: 2
- Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:17 am
Re: Pricing
I agree. The price is too low if anything. In particular there should be a charge for one camera and $50 sounds fair to me. I bought a dedicated MacMini to run this software and cameras and the software was by far the cheapest part despite it being the most important.
If the folk who write this software are having trouble making money then it's because this software is missing features to make it useful for any mainstream market. For example if the aim is to make money from those setting up a home security system then at least it needs to be possible to remote arm or disarm from a smartphone - no other bells and whistles are needed but of course people would want them. Without a basic feature like this the potential market for this tool is tiny.
Bear in mind it is not trivial to setup this unless you're at least semi technical. That cuts the market into something small before you start. Then you need people who will pay money for the software. This counts out most Andoid / Windows users since they are used to getting things for nothing. Really what's needed here is a $10 iPhone app that has an arm/disarm button and nothing else in v1.0; Apple users pay for things and this would sell. Having this would also mean there is a product rather than a technology demo.
Then make it $50 for one camera, $100 for two, and the same as now for unlimited. Those who won't or can't pay get nothing. Getting a sales conversion from someone who can and wants to pay just needs a short free trial period.
Let's be frank here. If these guys were making money the product would be feature rich and world class. Sadly at the moment this product is really only something with potential. These guys probably just need a business plan that focuses on how to make them money - giving their software away for free not surprisingly does not work.
Sad really - these folk could be rich without hardly doing anything more.
If the folk who write this software are having trouble making money then it's because this software is missing features to make it useful for any mainstream market. For example if the aim is to make money from those setting up a home security system then at least it needs to be possible to remote arm or disarm from a smartphone - no other bells and whistles are needed but of course people would want them. Without a basic feature like this the potential market for this tool is tiny.
Bear in mind it is not trivial to setup this unless you're at least semi technical. That cuts the market into something small before you start. Then you need people who will pay money for the software. This counts out most Andoid / Windows users since they are used to getting things for nothing. Really what's needed here is a $10 iPhone app that has an arm/disarm button and nothing else in v1.0; Apple users pay for things and this would sell. Having this would also mean there is a product rather than a technology demo.
Then make it $50 for one camera, $100 for two, and the same as now for unlimited. Those who won't or can't pay get nothing. Getting a sales conversion from someone who can and wants to pay just needs a short free trial period.
Let's be frank here. If these guys were making money the product would be feature rich and world class. Sadly at the moment this product is really only something with potential. These guys probably just need a business plan that focuses on how to make them money - giving their software away for free not surprisingly does not work.
Sad really - these folk could be rich without hardly doing anything more.
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armyturtle - Posts: 16
- Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:13 pm
Re: Pricing
I bought the $200 license. It is steep but now that a couple of months have past I've forgotten about how much it hurt. I suspect I'm not the only one who has eventually dropped the cash for this. At the moment I use it for 3 cameras. I plan to add more eventually. What pisses me off is for $200 they sure as heck could have included the ability to record audio - let me deal with the legal ramifications if that's the motiviation for such an idiotic decision.