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dale
 
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How does it delete clips?

by dale » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:42 pm

I don't understand how this program handles clips.
Under “Unknown Objects” it records numerous clips that appear inside a folder labeled Vitamin D security Videos in my movies folder. Fine. And when I “Select all clips” and “delete Clip” the clips disappear from the list in the Vitamin D program, but even when I say “delete them completely...” they are still on my my drive in the Vitamin D security Videos folder. How do I get rid of them?
When I delete a clip in the program, I expect them to also be deleted from my drive, but they are not. I deleted all of yesterdays clips and they are gone from the program view, but they are still there on my drive. Of course I can delete them manually from the drive, but that is not very convenient. What is going on?

Furthermore if I chose to delete them completely, it can take forever. There are well over 1000 small clips created in a few hours from one camera. When it says that 'Quick delete' 'removes information to find the video' does it mean that the program can't find them or does it mean that the operating system can't find them? Is this 'quick' vs 'permanent' delete the same as the finders 'empty trash' vs 'secure empty trash' or is it something else. If it is not a secure empty trash then why does the 'permanently delete' take so long, and why are they still there in the finder.
(MacBook Pro, OSX 10.6.6)
Thanks for any explanation.

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Re: How does it delete clips?

by doug » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:43 pm

Dale,

Hopefully this post on our old forum answers your questions:
https://vitamind.fogbugz.com/default.asp?video.1.307.2

To put it briefly:

Vitamin D Video records all video (not just video w/ objects in it) for a certain number of days. By default, VDV keeps 2 days worth of all video, but you can change this. When you permanently delete a clip from the VDV program, it deletes just that clip. It leaves any surrounding video alone. Thus, if you search for all objects and then delete all clips you find, you will be left with all of the video containing no objects.

Generally, you shouldn't need to delete things in Vitamin D Video--it manages the video for you.

-Doug

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Re: How does it delete clips?

by dale » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:22 pm

So what is the difference between "quick delete" and "permanent delete"? Does quick delete leave the files on the disk, and if so when are they removed? I ask this because "permanent delete" takes a very long time on my computer, much longer than an ordinary "Empty trash" in the finder. The time it takes is more like that of the finders "Secure Empty Trash", perhaps even longer than that. What is it good for?

Because thousands of clips pile up in the archive folder each day, and because it takes so long to delete them with permanent delete, it is easier and much quicker to go back to the finder and just drag them to the trash. But I am afraid this might mess up the program somehow, so I want to know what your deletes are really doing.

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dale

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Re: How does it delete clips?

by doug » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:33 pm

Dale,

Quick delete: delete just the tracking data, but no video. The video gets cleaned up periodically.

Permanent delete: delete the exact clip that you're looking at, but not any surrounding video. In order to do this, Vitamin D Video needs to split/reencode the surrounding video (so it can keep it), which is a time consuming process.

You can manually move video files into the trash if you'd like. It won't crash the program, but since doing this doesn't delete the tracking data, you will likely see lots of "Video not found" messages if you go back and search.

Did you read <https://vitamind.fogbugz.com/default.asp?video.1.307.2>? I think it explains most of this in more detail than I've done here.

-Doug


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