Netatmo cameras

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Netatmo cameras

by jelockwood » Sat May 16, 2020 5:13 am

Netatmo make a variety of 'smart' cameras and they all work the same way. Currently shipping are an outdoor camera and an indoor camera with a smart video doorbell announced. See

As far as I am aware they use H.264 via HLS - https live streaming. They can record locally within the camera on to an SD card or to an FTP server or to a DropBox account. They also support HomeKit and HomeKit Secure Video although the later being 'secure' would be useless for this purpose.

As an aside I am very disappointed with HomeKit Secure Video due to its absolute limit of a maximum of five cameras no matter how rich you are. I already have four outdoor cameras and two indoor cameras with an intent to get the Netatmo doorbell when it ships so even for a single small house I already exceed this limit and HomeKit is supposed to support multiple homes which for others would make this limit even worse. Therefore Apple's limit is absurd.

There is a Netatmo API documented here

It would therefore seem possible to access either the recordings or the HLS stream with the later what I am looking for.

Yes this is not your traditional security camera which would support MJPEG or RTSP or ONVIF. It is however an IP camera and would be desirable to support.

Hypothetically it might be possible to use ffmpeg to convert the HLS stream to an RTSP stream.

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Re: Netatmo cameras

by Semper Vaporo » Sat May 16, 2020 2:17 pm

Do these cameras need to "phone home" in order to operate? i.e.: is an internet connection required or can it run on a local network only?

How are they powered?
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Re: Netatmo cameras

by jelockwood » Sat May 16, 2020 2:37 pm

@Semper Vaporo

They do not need to be accessed via the cloud thanks to the API access. HomeKit - not to be confused with HomeKit Secure Video also works purely locally and this includes live video access and as mentioned a recording option is either the built-in SD card or a local FTP server. There is even an existing app for the AppleTV box which lets you monitor these cameras.

(HomeKit Secure Video is the secure storage of recordings in Apple's iCloud.)

So whilst I cannot guarantee the camera do not require any cloud service e.g. for the Netatmo app I believe for the potential use with Sighthound Video we should be ok.

The Netatmo Smart Outdoor Camera - formerly known as Netatmo Presence is powered by a mains cable wired directly to it. This is 220V for Europe and 110V for US.

The Netatmo Smart Indoor Camera - formerly known as Netatmo Welcome is powered by a USB adapter.

The yet to be released Netatmo Smart Doorbell will use a potentially existing doorbell transformer.

Therefore all three will have permanent mains power and not require batteries.

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