I've forgotten how this works with SH Video...
Desktop application, in search, specific camera selected, rule selected that saves and emails me (floppy disk and envelope icon), SH displays a list of matching clips. However, some clips state "Temporary Video (not saved by a rule)". Why is this? I have the specific rule selected, and these clips show up (obviously matching my rule criteria), so why is it considered temporary and not saving or notifying? Not all clips say this...some clips in this list actually notify me.
I could understand this behavior if I was looking at "all objects" for example...that clip list would tell me which rules (if any) were met for every single thing SH saw.
Thanks,
Tony
Temporary Video
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Semper Vaporo - Posts: 331
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Re: Temporary Video
SightHound records ALL video. It keeps ALL of it for 48 hours (that is the default, but you can change it), then, after that period, it trims the video files down to just that which meets the rules you have set and keeps that data for as long as possible given the limit of disk space you have set.
When you are viewing all of the cameras and all of the rules then you will see all video clips where there is any motion at all, regardless of if it meets your specific rule(s). Those clips that do not meet a rule are marked as "Not saved by a rule".
If you wish to see only videos in the list that meet your rules, then select just the rule (in the list of rules) you wish to see and then the list will show only those clips.
There is a "problem" (as I personally see it) with the unfiltered list in that if a clip contains any detected motion that does not meet a rule, even if that same clip has portions that do meet a rule, it gets marked as "Not saved by a rule" which can be misleading to us mere humans wanting a quick perusal of the events of the day. (I'd prefer it to be the opposite, i.e.: not mark the clip if any portion of it IS "Saved by a rule". but the designers feel differently.)
(Additionally, I'd like to pick multiple rules to include clips from multiple cameras and/or multiple rules, and get one combined list of clips for just those. I have one wide-angle camera and have 3 rules for different areas of the scene and sometimes I'd like to see all the generated clips from maybe 2 or 3 of the rules for that camera. I also have cameras that have adjacent or overlapping views and I'd like to see the list limited to just those two cameras or their rules. I see that as being better than having to generate the list for one camera/rule, view an event, then interrupt my thought process by having to select a different camera/rule to view a continuation of the event based on the different camera/rule. But again, that is not part of the design at present. But hope springs eternal!
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When you are viewing all of the cameras and all of the rules then you will see all video clips where there is any motion at all, regardless of if it meets your specific rule(s). Those clips that do not meet a rule are marked as "Not saved by a rule".
If you wish to see only videos in the list that meet your rules, then select just the rule (in the list of rules) you wish to see and then the list will show only those clips.
There is a "problem" (as I personally see it) with the unfiltered list in that if a clip contains any detected motion that does not meet a rule, even if that same clip has portions that do meet a rule, it gets marked as "Not saved by a rule" which can be misleading to us mere humans wanting a quick perusal of the events of the day. (I'd prefer it to be the opposite, i.e.: not mark the clip if any portion of it IS "Saved by a rule". but the designers feel differently.)
(Additionally, I'd like to pick multiple rules to include clips from multiple cameras and/or multiple rules, and get one combined list of clips for just those. I have one wide-angle camera and have 3 rules for different areas of the scene and sometimes I'd like to see all the generated clips from maybe 2 or 3 of the rules for that camera. I also have cameras that have adjacent or overlapping views and I'd like to see the list limited to just those two cameras or their rules. I see that as being better than having to generate the list for one camera/rule, view an event, then interrupt my thought process by having to select a different camera/rule to view a continuation of the event based on the different camera/rule. But again, that is not part of the design at present. But hope springs eternal!
)Semper Vaporo,
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tcesario - Posts: 67
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Re: Temporary Video
Thanks for typing all of that, but I'm aware of how SH works. Your one sentence tho:
This is the crux of my question, which remains unanswered. I select a camera, and then a specific rule, and I'm presented with a list of clips (a filtered list for the rule). Some of these clips state they were not recorded because they didn't meet the rule requirements I'm looking at. This doesn't make any sense to me. These clips are valid clips that the rule should capture (and the rule does capture it, sort of), but it says it doesn't.
-Tony
If you wish to see only videos in the list that meet your rules, then select just the rule (in the list of rules) you wish to see and then the list will show only those clips.
This is the crux of my question, which remains unanswered. I select a camera, and then a specific rule, and I'm presented with a list of clips (a filtered list for the rule). Some of these clips state they were not recorded because they didn't meet the rule requirements I'm looking at. This doesn't make any sense to me. These clips are valid clips that the rule should capture (and the rule does capture it, sort of), but it says it doesn't.
-Tony
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Semper Vaporo - Posts: 331
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Re: Temporary Video
Yep, that is where I say the logic for marking the clips is sort of upside-down thinking...
What it means is that a portion of the clip in the list did not meet the rule, but because it is listed then at least a portion did meet the rule. After the 48 hour delay, the clip will be trimmed to just that portion that meets the rule and the extraneous movement that did not meet the rule will be lost.
Personally, I'd prefer 3 different captions...
1) "This clip was saved because it meets a rule."
2) "Portions of this clip meet a rule, other portions do not and will be trimmed later."
3) "None of this clip meets any rule."
When you select to show everything you will see every clips labeled with one of the three, and if you select a rule, in the 1st 48-hours you will see just one of the first two... and after the 48-hour limit then you would see just the first one.
But my text is awfully wordy and there is so much "white space" (used to separate portions of the window) that there is less room for the important information. I am sure my "text" could be a lot more concise to be able to fit in the available space.
What it means is that a portion of the clip in the list did not meet the rule, but because it is listed then at least a portion did meet the rule. After the 48 hour delay, the clip will be trimmed to just that portion that meets the rule and the extraneous movement that did not meet the rule will be lost.
Personally, I'd prefer 3 different captions...
1) "This clip was saved because it meets a rule."
2) "Portions of this clip meet a rule, other portions do not and will be trimmed later."
3) "None of this clip meets any rule."
When you select to show everything you will see every clips labeled with one of the three, and if you select a rule, in the 1st 48-hours you will see just one of the first two... and after the 48-hour limit then you would see just the first one.
But my text is awfully wordy and there is so much "white space" (used to separate portions of the window) that there is less room for the important information. I am sure my "text" could be a lot more concise to be able to fit in the available space.
Semper Vaporo,